|
Post by Slacker - Command on Dec 11, 2012 10:57:27 GMT -5
So I have a situation. I have saved enough money for a gas WOC challenge kit and 7 magazines, with angry gun recoil spring, reinforced buffer tube, and a mock red/green/blue aimpoint red dot sight, with magpulls for all the magazines, and a propane adaptor. And left overs for more pistol mag, etc, some smaller things.
Or For the exact same price
I can get the M240 Bravo Brand New from Echo 1
My question is, who else is thinking of going gas?
Both have advantages and disadventages. To be honest I'm tired as hell of my AEG's no matter what fricken brand breaking within a month. And I worry about that with yet again another AEG in the M240 Bravo, which is true to my support role, but I will still be keeping the ARES for that as well.
M240 Bravo. Is true to my class, has a huge auto box mag, I love the darn thing, but it heavy, and awkward, it does shoot 400 fps out of the box at about 17-20 rof with a 9.6, yet it does not provide anything more then a m4 with a box mag could do.
The gas gun is awesome and milsim, which if non of you have played only low cap mag games. The action is replaced with tactics and well thought out moves. Which I like, but in the face of possibly everyone with AEG's will put me at one hell of a disadventage, `not to mention most gas guns fire 450 fps + in the summer and our feild does not have a way to deal with this yet.
So here I am asking for some ideas. Mainly who else is planning or is thinking of going gas, and when? This year? Next Year? Two years from now? Thanks in advance. I am considering gas as of now, just because it is something other then just flinging BB's and will help me gain some skills I'm otherwise kinda lacking in.
|
|
|
Post by Renegade on Dec 11, 2012 20:34:44 GMT -5
Is there a neither option? They both sound pretty nice, but I'm just thinking play-ability here. M240B: While cool, I think it's just way too much weight and size when an M249 can suffice. Also, since we don't ban the giant 2500rd drum magazines for AR's and other weapons, you could really just use an M4. Not realistic & not legal at other fields, but just pointing it out. Gas gun: Again, while it is cool, I just think you have to measure the practicality of it. The recoil is nice, but I think it's kinda overrated. Perhaps you can wait for the KWA ERG. You get the recoil you want, but without the cons of being gas (inconstant, leaky mags, FPS issues, etc). Website: kwausa.com/products/erg-rifle/ Recoil test: www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Yyq-p8-q_kI remember getting to shoot one(prototype?) at that Lion Claws event and it was pretty nice. Although, I have no idea about the internals, but willing to guess it might copy TM's newer models. You can also just buy regular midcaps for it and just fill them up to 30rds or so. I mean, even Irene allows midcaps. Maybe even look into a Daytona gun: www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEwbmBqcTPQJust my $0.02. If you want either of the two options you listed, by all means go and buy it as you should enjoy whatever you get.
|
|
|
Post by Koyote on Dec 12, 2012 10:09:17 GMT -5
I'm going to have to agree more with Renegade, on this topic. I to once considered buying the M240 Bravo but the more I play the more I figured it wasn't what I was wanting in an aeg. Not because of the weight and size of the gun but more so because of the price of the gun and the parts. To me you can get the same effect with one of the 249 saws for about half the price, plus thier about the easiest gun to tear apart.
As for the gas guns personaly I think they eat just as much money as they do gas. I will agree it is neat to hear the bolt going back and forth but being how you have to worry about leaks, gas and the tempature it's just not worth it, I think they'd be a bit more fun in a warmer climate.
|
|
|
Post by Gangnail-Command on Dec 13, 2012 4:22:30 GMT -5
My two cents... $850 buys one hell of a gun with ALL the trimmings: mags, magpulls, red dot, foregrip pretty much whatever you want. So I would pick out a style you want. if your interested in more A.E.G. practice and your gonna keep the ares for support then pick up a solid gun (in the style you want BOATLOADS of M4A1's out there man) and deck it out.
|
|
|
Post by Slacker - Command on Dec 13, 2012 11:58:16 GMT -5
Sill listening and I am going around and looking. As for daytona gun never, I'm not gonna track down HPA tanks again did that with paintball. If I go gas it will be the WOC challenge kit outfitted with a couple of real steel buffers, charging handle, and some other parts that can be beefed up with real steel.
The M240 bravo while I here you on the M249 is the same cost as the M249 after you install the torque up motor, 6.03 tightbore, high torque gear set. And still has the large capacity dumb in mag that the M249 does not have. HOWEVER once the ares is fixed, gotta get that over to doc's... I will still have a support gun.
I am taking a look at mulitipal different loadouts. And gun combos. M14 DMR Setups M4 with all the bells and whistles ANd a couple of others.
The reason I thought of going gas, is becuase no matter what brand I buy. (( ICS, ARES, KWA, CYMA, SOCOM GEAR, J&G, A&K )) and take care of them they all break waaaaaaaay to fast. WAAAAY to fast. The ARES is already down looks like a motor replacement. The ICS blew it's motor day one? The box mag on the A&K Did something funky, KWA the motor kept slipping out of place and disengaging the motor. Socom Gear the outer barrel seperated from the d**n body of the gun and sheared the body in one shot of gas blow back. The CYMA was nice until the gear box cracked shooting it on semi. I just get lemon after lemon, and with gas at least I know the interior of a standard weapon, have access to parts, and knowledge, and hell if I get the kit I build the d**n thing. Plus 7 mags at 50 rounds a peice, I'll still have plenty of firepower.
I;ve never saved this kind of money for airsoft or any hobby before. I want this choice to count. And while I have things going on in my head I like seeing what others I play with would do. So let me change the question. I give you $700.00 budget, in your free time answer what you'd do with it.
I am still listening to suggestions and appreciate the two cents going in here. Still stuck as to what to do.
|
|
|
Post by Gangnail-Command on Dec 16, 2012 4:52:54 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by Slacker - Command on Dec 16, 2012 12:59:01 GMT -5
Gangnail the only way for a chump like me to get the inokatsu is to put all the parts in a woc kit. The ATF will not allow the inokatsu to be shipped. They can fire real rounds. I would love to have one. The only way you get one unless you know people is to build one using the woc as a start.
|
|
|
Post by jackrabbit89 on Dec 20, 2012 4:48:09 GMT -5
gas is pretty much a seasonal gun while the m240B is an all weather gun as long as you got the right battery, but it would be pretty cool to have another gas gun out at the field, but honestly to me the the lmg airsoft guns have way to much stuff on them to go wrong, about the only one i have seen that didnt look like high maintenance is the ics l85 but that is just goin off the lil video i seen , they are the pickiest guns i have ever seen. and i would love to get a gas powered m14 or svd and the p90 but that is about it and i have no idea when
|
|
|
Post by Slacker - Command on Dec 29, 2012 9:13:33 GMT -5
Pending a couple emails I will not be going gas or the 240b but something a lot cooler in my mind. But it's still in the air. This flu put me in the hospital for now. Still waiting for emails, but this visit ismgonna hit my money again. Lol.
Jackrabbit you are correct box mags are a pain in the rear. I do love my ares box mag though. Never failed. I think I blew a motor for now. However if you are looking for an lmg since you say you want one of every type someday. The l85 bullpup setup sucks when it comes to winding high caps and there is some questions of the gearboxes not being able to take heavy sustained fire on some forums. Versions threes and modified version 7 gearboxes are favored in logs, that and the purpose made gearboxes of m249s these however are cursed to some priority parts, although with research their are ways around it.
Anyway. Just my get back to this thread. Thanks all for your suggestions. Looks like I will be choosing the neither option. And it will not be an m4. In fact I'd be surprised if anyone would expect or guess it. Youll all see when she hits the feild if my emails are answered correctly.
|
|
|
Post by jackrabbit89 on Jan 1, 2013 4:43:08 GMT -5
oh lol i think ima cross the l85 off the list then. and ill take a wild gues, g36 aeg rifle
|
|
|
Post by jackrabbit89 on Jan 1, 2013 4:45:18 GMT -5
and are the rumors true about the gas powered p90 not comin out after all?
|
|
|
Post by Slacker - Command on Jan 3, 2013 23:50:21 GMT -5
Finally ordered. Put my money where my mouth is. Bought a we tech with 7 mags two thunder bs three new pistol mags. Hoping before summer to grab a ra tech barrel and a descent aim point styled red dot sight. So subject closed
The p90 is actually on a fine line. We tech is starting to legally acquire trades. And since the are with cyber gun they can acquire trades. This might mean a p90. We all know the gun is made. It's probably an issue with licensing and possibly ATF compliances. I'm keeping up with it the best I can. If your thinking about gas guns. Save your money for summer, it's when the guns will be coming out like the mp5 or p90
|
|
|
Post by Slacker - Command on Jan 3, 2013 23:52:56 GMT -5
Adding this. I bought everything listed for 200 dollars under budget. Don't tell me it's expensive to go gas. I would spend the same on an aeg I would want. Also my gas guns have never failed me. My ages always fail me. Plus gas might not be more competitive but it is more fun in my book. Thanks for the input though guys. You got me looking and researching ,ore for what I wanted. Thanks for the help
|
|
|
Post by jackrabbit89 on Jan 5, 2013 1:07:35 GMT -5
wait you talkin about the we tech m14? i know you was talkin about one for awhile
|
|
|
Post by Slacker - Command on Jan 5, 2013 11:05:40 GMT -5
We m4 not m14. The m14 has issue with the receivers also would cost twice as much to upgrade the inner and the drop in lower hammer assembly. Plus 20 round magazines is less ammo then 30. You can make the mags 30 rounders but they were designed to hold twenty as such they nearly hold enough gas for 30. I did a lot of research. I'm happy it's my choice.
|
|