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Post by tiny on Apr 12, 2012 8:59:07 GMT -5
ok i've narrowed it down pretty much to the two primary guns im going to choose from... Either an echo 1 m14 or an ak47 of some sort.. But i need to know if any of you guys have had any experience with echo1 products and are they any good? All of the reviews i've watched have been good.. I just want to know for sure before i buy.. I dont want to make a decision i'll regret later...
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Post by Koyote on Apr 12, 2012 9:05:39 GMT -5
I've never really had any major issues with echo 1 guns, like any gun out there really thier not perfect but echo 1 will get the job done.
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Post by tiny on Apr 12, 2012 9:25:45 GMT -5
awsome i like that... The m14 is sick... I love that gun.. In my opinion apart from support weapons its probably one of the heaviest a.e.g. rifles you can buy..
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Post by Koyote on Apr 12, 2012 11:12:57 GMT -5
I had a G&G M14 it was beastly but it was full metal with a wood stock. M14's are nice but with that long barrel they have thier a bit hard to swing around cover.
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Post by tiny on Apr 12, 2012 12:02:38 GMT -5
yeah i understand that but also with the longer barrel they will shoot farther.. So you can engage from farther away.. I mean you may not always have to be right up in their face.. Thats what ill have my atp for.. Im going for a marine look for now.. Which is why i chose the m14 cuz they actually started to reissue them to the guys overseas because they were having problems with the m4's and m16's jamming up because of the mud and dust and sand.. And the m14 is so easy to maintain.. I guess at least thats what i had heard..
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Post by Renegade on Apr 12, 2012 20:49:44 GMT -5
the longer barrel they will shoot farther.) Kind of a myth. Longer barrels in real guns usually help because it allows more spin to be imparted on the bullet & the longer time in the barrel allows for a greater velocity. Greater spin+velocity= range. "A longer barrel also can increase the velocity of the bullet by giving the gun powder longer to detonate and the gasses it produces to expand further before the bullet leaves the barrel. This increased velocity "flattens" out the trajectory of the bullet, effectively making it more accurate. Their is a limit however to the effect a long barrel has on velocity. Eventually, the gasses can expand only so much, and the bullet can only be propelled so fast. At that point, a longer barrel becomes counterproductive. Modern firearms today use a combination of barrel length, twist rate of the rifling in the barrel, the mass of the bullet itself, as well as the speed in which the various powders burn to create the optimal bullet accuracy." JXJohns - boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=179502Airsoft guns do not use a gun powder that expands so adding a M16 inner barrel to a M4 adds no velocity (assuming bores are the same and the barrel to cylinder volume are the same). Also, since there is no rifling in airsoft guns the projectile isn't getting more spin. Barrel length on an airsoft gun could have some benefits but I really don't think you will notice it. In reality these are some of the factors for range; hop-up, barrel (quality, not really bore size), compression & consistency, bb weight & bb quality, FPS (somewhat), etc. Also, look into the Cyma M14 as Echo 1 just rebrands Cyma & jacks up the price by $50 or so.
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Post by tiny on Apr 13, 2012 4:53:29 GMT -5
yeah i know about cyma i like theirs too... I'll look into that one.. But they are also the ones with an exstensive variety of ak47 and other famous kalashnikov models.. And most of them are within 100 dollar range and full metal... So i think there both very good choices for the money.. And it leaves me enough room to buy the some of the extra stuff i need..
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Post by Koyote on Apr 13, 2012 8:10:39 GMT -5
Ferratus use to have a cyma AK-47 it still ran strong after he sold it.
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Post by tiny on Apr 13, 2012 8:31:18 GMT -5
yeah from what i've heard from reviews cyma makes one heck of an airsoft gun..
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Post by Gangnail-Command on Apr 13, 2012 13:42:30 GMT -5
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