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Post by jackrabbit89 on Jan 6, 2013 5:11:21 GMT -5
i have decided to stop tryin to sell the e90 and hold off on buyin more guns for now and concentrate on upgrading the ones i got and i need ideas, especially since im not the most knowledgeable person wen it comes to internals of airsoft guns i have some stuff on my wish list already for most of my guns but i want other opinions before i go off and buy something i dont know about.
at the moment im looking to upgrade the e90, the ics m4, the ak47 CPW and my TSD sd98 sniper once i get it back together cause my dumb butt tried to play tech boy with it and cant figure out how to reassemble it now lol but anyways that is my list of gun to do. i want to upgrade them all overtime but more the e90 right now, i know i want to upgrade the spring guides, motor and piston to take the added power of 11.1 lipo, the spring guide and piston are plastic that is why and the motor for the extra power and speed no need to worry about the gears or that stuff as they are full steal already on the echo1 version. along with that i want a tight bore barrel and possibly a new hopup wit all the external upgrades this gun has available it can be set up for either field or cqb. any insight you guys could give me would be appreciated
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Post by rabidgerbil on Jan 6, 2013 7:47:32 GMT -5
Start ALL of them with the R-Hop mod! All will benefit from this and you do not have to open your gearbox
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Post by Slacker - Command on Jan 6, 2013 8:51:59 GMT -5
Nope. G&g green bucking. Creates better compression in the gun. Seen sme awesome things happen, my ares went from meh. To having some awesome ranging shooting 320fps. The best way IMO to get suns to perform better. Is that bucking, 6.02 or 6.03 inner barrel. After that possibly look into different motors, check to make sure you have the biggest batteries per gun you can have, possibly going to liposuction 7.4s make sure your inner barrel is moving around inside of your outer barrels. Clean your inner barrels if you don't. Non of that requires cracking open a gearbox. And it's a sure fire way to get a lot better performance out of a gun.
As for the p90 man try to find out what's in the internals of the Tokyo marui high speed p90 it doesn't use lipo and gets something like 25 rof on a 8.4. Only 290 - 320 fps but that is a mean rof with a small battery and you have a big box mag. This would probably mean a new piston, spring guide, motor, and reshimming of the gearbox with possibly high speed gears. I would go down that path for the p90 personally.
I'm highly convinced your ak only needs the green hopup, and a barrel cleaning or tight ore to be an absolute beast on the feild. That thing is already a long baller keep playing to that tune.
You know what... I was going to edit this from this iPads stupid autocorrect but no I'm gonna leave it just so the retardedness of it is marked for all to see. Stupid iPad! Let me turn the d**n autocorrect off!
For the ics m4 do whatever the heck darth did to his. That thing is mean.
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Post by jackrabbit89 on Jan 6, 2013 15:44:31 GMT -5
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Post by jackrabbit89 on Jan 6, 2013 15:56:51 GMT -5
and i was hopin to make the e90 a field and cqb gun just by popin out the spring and replacin, can the tokyo marui parts handle a heavy spring and a lipo cus i seen them compare the two and the tm had all plastic internals almost.
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Post by Slacker - Command on Jan 6, 2013 19:36:06 GMT -5
Yes. No. P90 from tm uses a smaller spring to achieve unsain volume of fire. 25 rps with a 8.4.
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Post by jackrabbit89 on Jan 7, 2013 18:35:05 GMT -5
ah got ya, ill look into that. but what all sites do you go to find the info like that? all iv ever used is youtube and airsoft store reviews
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Post by Slacker - Command on Jan 7, 2013 21:55:07 GMT -5
Sooooooo many.. Um.. Gasguns/info.com Pyramidair.com Airsoftgi forums Evike forums AirsoftSociety.com Airsoft retreat.com Arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums Airsoft-Barracks.com
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Post by jackrabbit89 on Jan 9, 2013 19:00:26 GMT -5
k thanks
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Post by jackrabbit89 on Jan 9, 2013 21:19:32 GMT -5
this is the p90 setup i was thinkin of gettin. i dont think it cost all that much considerin the quality of the part. let me know wat you guys think.
P90 setup- AIM Tornado Infinity Speed Gear Set w/ Piston for Airsoft AEG Rifles. reviews are tellin me these have an insanely high ROF to them. found a couple of reviews of them in tm p90 and worked amazingly z Systema Motor : Long Type ( High Speed )
Matrix M100 140% Irregular Pitch Airsoft AEG Upgrade Spring (320~380 FPS) (cqb use)
Systema M120 Irregular-Pitch Airsoft AEG Power-Up Spring (380~420 FPS)(field use)
Matrix Mosfet FET extension wiring set - Small Tamiya Plug
Matrix 7.4V 15C Small Type 2000mAh Li-Poly Battery (35mm x 110mm)(cqb)
Firefox 11.1V 2300mAh High Performance Airsoft Li-Poly Battery Pack (field)
G&G Hopup Bucking for Airsoft AEG w/ Cold-Resistant Material
Matrix Airsoft AEG Mushroom Type Silent Ball Bearing Shock Reduction Piston Head(quiet and reduces gearbox tear) or Systema Duracon Piston Head with Thrust Bearing. havent decided on the piston head yet.
Plus a tight bore of undetermined length and silencer
total price +265 to 275+ barrel and silencer so around 300
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Post by Slacker - Command on Jan 9, 2013 22:46:02 GMT -5
High speed motors and gears are for high speed buddy. Verrrrrry hard to make a rifle pull double duty. I honestly don't know how long your motor can take an m120 it's right at the line for high speed setups. Fps does not equal range man. Compression, clean inner barrel, stable inner barrel, and shimmed gearboxes are where it's at. You do not need more fps.
Keep researching, make sure this is what gun you plan on modding out first.
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Post by Slacker - Command on Jan 9, 2013 22:48:38 GMT -5
Also I would consider ditching a longer inner barrel. The gearbox on a p90 is made for a p90 therefore keeping a stock barrel is best from what I've heard. Cosmetically get a suppressor if you want, but keep the inner where it is at unless you have proof to e contrary.
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Post by jackrabbit89 on Jan 11, 2013 19:40:49 GMT -5
so lose the m120 spring and should i lose the 11.1 i seen a lot of reviews sayin you almost have to slow these gears down a bit or they can wear out really fast, alot of people dropped the m120 in there for that purpose or the just ran an 8.4 or 9.6, i definately want more speed out of that gun but i dont want to shred the gears at the same time. and i know i want to run a lipo out of it for the battery life and the trigger response. should i just drop all of the stuff i have labled as field cus most of it is more geared toward fps or would you know of a motor that has those high speed capabilities and can handle the fps? and which one of those piston heads would you think suit the e90 and wat i want to get out of it?
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Post by Slacker - Command on Jan 14, 2013 11:50:48 GMT -5
7.4 Lipo is about the same as a 9.6 and has better trigger response from what I've heard and this might seriously help a two stage trigger like the p90
There are many ways to get speed out of a gun. You really need to understand that any high speed or fps builds do wear out faster jackrabbit. The less you try to combine the two builds the longer they last. With the p90 personally I would aim for 320 fps and high speed build. Using those gears and a tokyo marui high speed motor of your choice.
Then if you want longer ranges use the sniper rfile across your back or resort to your AK. Just because something has low fps doesnt mean it cant be feild. Dave's zombat only shoots 290 fps and is still a long baller.
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Post by jackrabbit89 on Jan 14, 2013 21:29:38 GMT -5
good point i think that is the direction im gona go in with the e90, low fps high speed. i tryin to get ahold of the green bucking they are out on evike and cant find it on other sites, i have the pdi bucking in mind to but it doesnt have the multi temp thing i dont think. but i was plannin on runnin the sniper with it to sometimes.
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